[Pacemaker] Pacemaker on Fedora 10 -- OpenAIS/Corosync version question

[Ty! Boyack]

Thanks Andrew!  I have been using that install page from the wiki quite 
a bit.  The difficulty I'm running into stems from rpm package 
dependencies.  With our package set in fedora openais 0.91-2 and 
corosync 0.92.2 get installed initially as dependencies to other 
packages.  That prevents me from installing openais 0.80.3-12 from the 
build service unless I first remove those packages that came from the 
fedora repo.  That in itself is no problem, but if an update is applied 
(yum update) without careful control not to update openais, the package 
gets overwritten with the 0.91-2 version (which will install corosync as 
a dependency).  For now I've added an 'exclude=openais' statement to the 
fedora repo file, but I'm concerned about this for the long term, 
especially if I need to run applications that depend on corosync at the 
same time (CLVM comes immediately to mind).

So I guess I would like to know what you see in your crystal ball.  Do 
you think you will continue to advocate openais without corosync, or if 
corosync becomes less twitchy do you expect to advocate that?  If 
Pacemaker is happier without corosync, would it be wise to rename one of 
the OpenAIS packages (the one that requires corosync or the one that is 
stand alone) to prevent unintentional conflicts from multiple repos?  Do 
you think it is feasible to run openais 0.80 at the same time as 
corosync (with or without the openais service engine)?

I know this is not your problem to fix, I just wanted to share with you 
some experiences from the field and gain your insights.  We are as 
concerned with server maintenance as we are with getting the initial 
install working, and I'm just looking for good ways to make this a 
sustainable solution.  I see Pacemaker as a key and critical component 
to nearly every system we plan to deploy in the next 5-10 years, and I'm 
really excited to see it become even more stable and ubiquitous on a 
variety of distributions. 

-Ty!

Andrew Beekhof wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 20:54, Ty! Boyack <ty at nrel.colostate.edu> wrote:
>   
>> I'm trying to get Pacemaker running on a set of Fedora 10 boxes, but
>> I've seen some conflicting/confusing information regarding the state of
>> Pacemaker and how it integrates with OpenAIS/Corosync.
>>
>> It looks like the ha-clustering repo (at Suse) uses the pre-Corosync
>> version of OpenAIS (0.80.3-12),
>>     
>
> I need to update those packages - 0.80.4 (IIRC) now includes all the
> patches Pacemaker needs to run.
>
>   
>> and the Fedora 10 repos have OpenAIS
>> version 0.91-2 with corosync version 0.92.2.
>>
>> Is there a recommended way of installing this using these available
>> rpms?  I can see a couple of different stacks:
>>     
>
> Personally I prefer openais (0.80) + pacemaker.
> The last time I used corosync, the membership data it supplied was a
> bit "twitchy"
> Having said that, I do plan to retest how corosync behaves over the
> coming weeks.
>
>   
>> Pacemaker+OpenAIS-0.80.3-12
>>
>> Pacemaker+OpenAIS-0.91-2+Corosync-0.92.2
>>
>> Pacemaker+Corosync-0.92.2
>>
>> Do I understand correctly that eventually Pacemaker will be called
>> directly as a service engine from Corosync, without needing the API that
>> the "new" OpenAIS layer provides?  If this is a planned change, is there
>> a proposed timeline?
>>     
>
> Pacemaker worked with Corosync before it was even announced, in fact
> thats what it was originally ported to.
> We use the same design for both (a .lcrso plugin) versions.
>
>   
>> If there is compelling reason I'll get the up-to-date source trees and
>> compile the parts, but the same question would apply of which pieces
>> need to be installed.  I would rather stick with the rpms for management
>> reasons if possible, though.
>>     
>
> You should be able to grab the rpms from the build service, but there
> are also instructions for building the stack at:
>    http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Install
>
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