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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’d suggest two things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Check the status using the systemctl status for the units and check the RA’s monitor operation<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Provide cluster status output when the state looks bad (I’m using “crm_mon -1Arfj”, but your preference may be different)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ulrich Windl<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Users <users-bounces@clusterlabs.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marek Pastierik<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 21, 2026 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> users@clusterlabs.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [ClusterLabs] Systemd resources stopping issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Dear ClusterLabs team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I would like to ask for clarification regarding Pacemaker behavior with systemd services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I am running<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>Pacemaker 2.1.10-2.el9</strong><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>on a<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>3-node cluster</strong><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>and
currently have<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>8 cluster resources</strong>, two of which are systemd-based services:<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>nginx.service</strong><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>puppetserver.service</strong>.<br>
Both of these services are intended to run on only one node, but I am testing whether Pacemaker will stop them if I manually start them on a second node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I am seeing different behavior for two very similarly defined primitives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Specifically,<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>nginx.service</strong><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>is actively being stopped by Pacemaker on nodes where it should not be running, while<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>puppetserver.service</strong><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>is
not, even though I would expect the same behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">For nginx, I can see the following message in<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span><code><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">pacemaker-controld</span></code><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"><span style="color:black"> </span></span><span style="color:black">logs:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><code><span style="color:black">pacemaker-controld[520998]: notice: Requesting local execution of stop operation for nginx_service on X.Y.Z<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<p><span style="color:black">For puppetserver, I do not see a corresponding stop operation being requested.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">The primitive definitions are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"><primitive id="nginx_service" class="systemd" type="nginx.service"><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <operations><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="monitor" interval="10s" role="Started"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="nginx_service-monitor-interval-10s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="monitor" interval="11s" role="Stopped"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="nginx_service-monitor-interval-11s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="start" interval="0s"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="nginx_service-start-interval-0s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="stop" interval="0s"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="nginx_service-stop-interval-0s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> </operations><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <meta_attributes id="nginx_service-meta_attributes"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"></primitive><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"><primitive id="puppetserver_service" class="systemd" type="puppetserver.service"><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <operations><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="monitor" interval="10s" role="Started"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="puppetserver_service-monitor-interval-10s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="monitor" interval="30s" role="Stopped" timeout="30s"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="puppetserver_service-monitor-interval-11s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="start" interval="0s"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="puppetserver_service-start-interval-0s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <op name="stop" interval="0s"<o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> id="puppetserver_service-stop-interval-0s"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> </operations><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"> <meta_attributes id="puppetserver_service-meta_attributes"/><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<pre><code><span style="color:black"></primitive><o:p></o:p></span></code></pre>
<p><span style="color:black">Could someone please explain why Pacemaker requests a local stop operation for<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span><code><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">nginx.service</span></code><span style="color:black">,
but not for<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span><code><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">puppetserver.service</span></code><span style="color:black">?<br>
Is this related to differences in monitor intervals, systemd unit behavior, or Pacemaker’s internal state handling?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Thank you in advance for any insight.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Best regards,<br>
Marek Pastierik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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