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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Jul 2017, at 21:16, Klaus Wenninger <<a href="mailto:kwenning@redhat.com" class="">kwenning@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 07/24/2017 08:27 PM, Prasad, Shashank wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:8A8F98BF0CDFD5438985D4397358E6C7ECC85F@idc.vanu.com" style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">My understanding is that SBD will need a shared storage between clustered nodes.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And that, SBD will need at least 3 nodes in a cluster, if using w/o shared storage.</span></div></div></blockquote><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Haven't tried to be honest but reason for 3 nodes is that without</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">shared disk you need a real quorum-source and not something</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">'faked' as with 2-node-feature in corosync.</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">But I don't see anything speaking against getting the proper</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">quorum via qdevice instead with a third full cluster-node.</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:8A8F98BF0CDFD5438985D4397358E6C7ECC85F@idc.vanu.com" style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Therefore, for systems which do NOT use shared storage between 1+1 HA clustered nodes, SBD may NOT be an option.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Correct me, if I am wrong.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">For cluster systems using the likes of iDRAC/IMM2 fencing agents, which have redundant but shared power supply units with the nodes, the normal fencing mechanisms should work for all resiliency scenarios, but for IMM2/iDRAC are being NOT reachable for whatsoever reasons. And, to bail out of those situations in the absence of SBD, I believe using used-defined failover hooks (via scripts) into Pacemaker Alerts, with sudo permissions for ‘hacluster’, should help.</span></div></div></blockquote><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">If you don't see your fencing device assuming after some time</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">the the corresponding node will probably be down is quite risky</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">in my opinion.</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">But why not assure it to be down using a watchdog?</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:8A8F98BF0CDFD5438985D4397358E6C7ECC85F@idc.vanu.com" style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanx.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Klaus Wenninger [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kwenning@redhat.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:kwenning@redhat.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 24, 2017 11:31 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cluster Labs - All topics related to open-source clustering welcomed; Prasad, Shashank<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ClusterLabs] Two nodes cluster issue<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 07/24/2017 07:32 PM, Prasad, Shashank wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Sometimes IPMI fence devices use shared power of the node, and it cannot be avoided.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In such scenarios the HA cluster is NOT able to handle the power failure of a node, since the power is shared with its own fence device.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The failure of IPMI based fencing can also exist due to other reasons also.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">A failure to fence the failed node will cause cluster to be marked UNCLEAN.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">To get over it, the following command needs to be invoked on the surviving node.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">pcs stonith confirm <failed_node_name> --force</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">This can be automated by hooking a recovery script, when the the Stonith resource ‘Timed Out’ event.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">To be more specific, the Pacemaker Alerts can be used for watch for Stonith timeouts and failures.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In that script, all that’s essentially to be executed is the aforementioned command.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class="">If I get you right here you can disable fencing then in the first place.<br class="">Actually quorum-based-watchdog-fencing is the way to do this in a<br class="">safe manner. This of course assumes you have a proper source for<br class="">quorum in your 2-node-setup with e.g. qdevice or using a shared<br class="">disk with sbd (not directly pacemaker quorum here but similar thing<br class="">handled inside sbd).<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Since the alerts are issued from ‘hacluster’ login, sudo permissions for ‘hacluster’ needs to be configured.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanx.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Klaus Wenninger [<a href="mailto:kwenning@redhat.com" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:kwenning@redhat.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 24, 2017 9:24 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kristián Feldsam; Cluster Labs - All topics related to open-source clustering welcomed<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ClusterLabs] Two nodes cluster issue</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 07/24/2017 05:37 PM, Kristián Feldsam wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I personally think that power off node by switched pdu is more safe, or not?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class="">True if that is working in you environment. If you can't do a physical setup<br class="">where you aren't simultaneously loosing connection to both your node and<br class="">the switch-device (or you just want to cover cases where that happens)<br class="">you have to come up with something else.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">S pozdravem Kristián Feldsam<br class="">Tel.: +420 773 303 353, +421 944 137 535<br class="">E-mail.:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:support@feldhost.cz" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">support@feldhost.cz</a><br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.feldhost.cz/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.feldhost.cz</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Feld</b>Host</span>™<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">– profesionální hostingové a serverové služby za adekvátní ceny.<br class=""><br class="">FELDSAM s.r.o.<br class="">V rohu 434/3<br class="">Praha 4 – Libuš, PSČ 142 00<br class="">IČ: 290 60 958, DIČ: CZ290 60 958<br class="">C 200350 vedená u Městského soudu v Praze<br class=""><br class="">Banka: Fio banka a.s.<br class="">Číslo účtu: 2400330446/2010<br class="">BIC: FIOBCZPPXX<br class="">IBAN: CZ82 2010 0000 0024 0033 0446</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:27, Klaus Wenninger <<a href="mailto:kwenning@redhat.com" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kwenning@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">On 07/24/2017 05:15 PM, Tomer Azran wrote:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I still don't understand why the qdevice concept doesn't help on this situation. Since the master node is down, I would expect the quorum to declare it as dead.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Why doesn't it happens?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class="">That is not how quorum works. It just limits the decision-making to the quorate subset of the cluster.<br class="">Still the unknown nodes are not sure to be down.<br class="">That is why I suggested to have quorum-based watchdog-fencing with sbd.<br class="">That would assure that within a certain time all nodes of the non-quorate part<br class="">of the cluster are down.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:15 PM +0300, "Dmitri Maziuk"<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:dmitri.maziuk@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">dmitri.maziuk@gmail.com</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">On 2017-07-24 07:51, Tomer Azran wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">> We don't have the ability to use it.<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">> Is that the only solution?<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">No, but I'd recommend thinking about it first. Are you sure you will <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">care about your cluster working when your server room is on fire? 'Cause <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">unless you have halon suppression, your server room is a complete <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">write-off anyway. (Think water from sprinklers hitting rich chunky volts <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">in the servers.)<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Dima<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Users mailing list: <a href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Users@clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Bugs: <a href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Users mailing list: <a href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Users@clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><a href="http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Project Home: <a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Getting started: <a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Bugs: <a href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">-- </span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Klaus Wenninger</span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Senior Software Engineer, EMEA ENG Openstack Infrastructure</span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Red Hat</span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:kwenning@redhat.com" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">kwenning@redhat.com</a> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Users mailing list:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Users@clusterlabs.org</span></a><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class=""></span><a href="http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users</span></a><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">Project Home:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org</span></a><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class="">Getting started:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf</span></a><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif;" class=""><br class="">Bugs:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville, serif; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Users mailing list: <a href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Users@clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><a href="http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Project Home: <a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Getting started: <a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Bugs: <a href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></pre></div></div></blockquote><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Users mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; 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white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Project Home:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org</a><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Getting started:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf</a><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Bugs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</a><br style="font-family: Baskerville; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>