[ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: why is node fenced ?

Ulrich Windl Ulrich.Windl at rz.uni-regensburg.de
Tue Aug 18 03:04:44 EDT 2020


>>> Ken Gaillot <kgaillot at redhat.com> schrieb am 17.08.2020 um 16:54 in
Nachricht
<426bbd8063885706b0e8fdd3dab81be7e0c9f25d.camel at redhat.com>:
> On Fri, 2020-08-14 at 12:17 +0200, Lentes, Bernd wrote:
>> 
>> ----- On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:59 PM, kgaillot kgaillot at redhat.com 
>> wrote:
>> > The most recent transition is aborted, but since all its actions
>> > are
>> > complete, the only effect is to trigger a new transition.
>> > 
>> > We should probably rephrase the log message. In fact, the whole
>> > "transition" terminology is kind of obscure. It's hard to come up
>> > with
>> > something better though.
>> > 
>> 
>> Hi Ken,
>> 
>> i don't get it. How can s.th. be aborted which is already completed ?
> 
> I agree the wording is confusing :)
> 
> From the code's point of view, the actions in the transition are
> complete, but the transition itself (as an abstract entity) remains
> current until the next one starts. However that's academic and

Hi!

So when the "transition" had completed, it became a "state" ;-)
Aborting a "state" seems to be a "transition" started in my view.

> meaningless from a user's point of view, so the log messages should be
> reworded.

Another thing that always had confused me in the past was that concept of
"synapse"...
Good wording in error messages is a valuable resource!

Regards,
Ulrich

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> Ken Gaillot <kgaillot at redhat.com>
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