[ClusterLabs] Antw: Antwort: Antw: corosync/dlm fencing?

Ulrich Windl Ulrich.Windl at rz.uni-regensburg.de
Mon Jul 16 07:35:12 EDT 2018


>>> Philipp Achmüller <philipp.achmueller at arz.at> schrieb am 16.07.2018 um
11:44 in
Nachricht <OFE07B0DF6.7DA543A3-ONC12582CC.0031FEDF-C12582CC.0035892B at arz.at>:
> hi!
> 
> Thank you for comment.
> Unfortunatly it is not obvious for me - the "grep fence" is attached in my 
> original message.

Hi!

OK, seems I missed finding the needle in all the hay...
Anyway I think the problem is "Cluster node siteb-1 will be fenced: peer is no
longer part of the cluster". Looks as if the cluster noticed an unclean
shutdown of node siteb-1. The message "Stonith/shutdown of siteb-1 not matched"
seems to confirm that.
When shutting down two nodes, did you wait until shutdown of the first node
succeeded before shutting down the second?

Regards,
Ulrich

> 
> i searched older logs with activated dubug information for dlm: - this is 
> the sequence from syslog (from another timeframe):
> 
> -------------------
> Node: siteb-2 (DC):
> ............
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.272415+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: State 
> transition S_IDLE -> S_POLICY_ENGINE
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.279028+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: 
> Watchdog will be used via SBD if fencing is required
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.279214+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: On 
> loss of CCM Quorum: Ignore
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282153+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Move  
> stonith-sbd#011(Started sitea-1 -> siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282249+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Move  
> cl-info#011(Started sitea-1 -> siteb-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282338+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Move  
> k45RG#011(Started sitea-2 -> siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282422+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> dlm:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282505+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> clvm:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282588+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> vg1:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282670+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> dlm:3#011(sitea-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282752+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> clvm:3#011(sitea-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282833+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> vg1:3#011(sitea-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.282916+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> sysinfo:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.283001+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> sysinfo:3#011(sitea-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.283978+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: 
> Calculated transition 1056, saving inputs in 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2321.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284428+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Processing graph 1056 (ref=pe_calc-dc-1530169343-1339) derived from 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2321.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284575+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation stonith-sbd_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284659+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation cl-info_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284742+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation k45RG_stop_0 on sitea-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284824+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation vg1_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284908+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation vg1_stop_0 on sitea-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.284990+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation sysinfo_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.285072+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation sysinfo_stop_0 on sitea-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.288254+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating start operation stonith-sbd_start_0 on siteb-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.298867+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating start operation cl-info_start_0 locally on siteb-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.309272+02:00 siteb-2 lrmd[189257]:   notice: executing 
> - rsc:cl-info action:start call_id:105
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.384074+02:00 siteb-2 lrmd[189257]:   notice: finished 
> - rsc:cl-info action:start call_id:105 pid:253747 exit-code:0 
> exec-time:75ms queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.393759+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Result of 
> start operation for cl-info on siteb-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.395594+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating monitor operation cl-info_monitor_60000 locally on siteb-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.159586+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation clvm_stop_0 on sitea-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193317+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.122213] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 5
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193349+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.122240] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_clear_toss 1 done
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193351+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.122251] dlm: 
> clvmd: remove member 3
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193352+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.122579] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_members 3 nodes
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.993269+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.920751] dlm: 
> clvmd: generation 7 slots 3 1:2 2:4 3:1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.993283+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80844.920755] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.189265+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80845.118173] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 1 in 0 new
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.604661+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation clvm_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.189277+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.116630] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 0 out 2 messages
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.189291+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.116635] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.189292+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.116648] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters 0 of 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.189293+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.116649] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 out
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.208948+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation dlm_stop_0 on sitea-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.789266+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.716532] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 in
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.013264+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.940071] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_done_wait error -4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.013276+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80846.940076] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 5 error -4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.093263+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80847.022308] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 7
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.093273+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80847.022372] dlm: 
> clvmd: prev removed member 3
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.093274+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80847.022375] dlm: 
> clvmd: remove member 1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.493266+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80847.420198] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_members 2 nodes
> 2018-06-28T09:02:38.414440+02:00 siteb-2 corosync[189245]:   [TOTEM ] A 
> processor failed, forming new configuration.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.080141+02:00 siteb-2 corosync[189245]:   [TOTEM ] A 
> new membership (192.168.121.55:2012) was formed. Members left: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.080537+02:00 siteb-2 corosync[189245]:   [TOTEM ] 
> Failed to receive the leave message. failed: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083415+02:00 siteb-2 attrd[189258]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083533+02:00 siteb-2 attrd[189258]:   notice: Removing 
> all siteb-1 attributes for peer loss
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083617+02:00 siteb-2 attrd[189258]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083700+02:00 siteb-2 cib[189255]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083793+02:00 siteb-2 cib[189255]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083875+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Node siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083968+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Purged 1 peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084054+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:  warning: No reason 
> to expect node 2 to be down
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084156+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Stonith/shutdown of siteb-1 not matched
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084242+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Transition aborted: Node failure
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084327+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Action 17 
> (stonith-sbd_start_0) was pending on 2 (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084409+02:00 siteb-2 corosync[189245]:   [QUORUM] 
> Members[3]: 1 3 4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084492+02:00 siteb-2 corosync[189245]:   [MAIN  ] 
> Completed service synchronization, ready to provide service.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084574+02:00 siteb-2 pacemakerd[189252]:   notice: 
> Node siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084667+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084749+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:  warning: No reason 
> to expect node 2 to be down
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084831+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Stonith/shutdown of siteb-1 not matched
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.085203+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80872.011754] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_members_wait error -4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.085209+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80872.011757] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 7 error -4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.085210+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80872.012486] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.086174+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Transition 1056 (Complete=18, Pending=0, Fired=0, Skipped=4, Incomplete=4, 
> Source=/var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2321.bz2): Stopped
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.095172+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: 
> Watchdog will be used via SBD if fencing is required
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.095348+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: On 
> loss of CCM Quorum: Ignore
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.095584+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: 
> Cluster node siteb-1 will be fenced: peer is no longer part of the cluster
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.095673+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Node 
> siteb-1 is unclean
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.097943+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> stonith-sbd_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098028+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> dlm:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098110+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> dlm:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098191+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> clvm:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098273+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> clvm:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098354+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> vg1:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098436+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> vg1:2_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098521+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> sysinfo:1_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098603+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: Action 
> sysinfo:1_stop_0 on siteb-1 is unrunnable (offline)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098683+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: 
> Scheduling Node siteb-1 for STONITH
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098764+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice:  * 
> Fence siteb-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098846+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Move  
> stonith-sbd#011(Started siteb-1 -> siteb-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.098928+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> dlm:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099010+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> dlm:2#011(siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099094+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> clvm:2#011(siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099177+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> vg1:2#011(siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099258+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> sysinfo:1#011(siteb-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099339+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Start  
> k45RG#011(siteb-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.099715+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:  warning: 
> Calculated transition 1057 (with warnings), saving inputs in 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-warn-6.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.100282+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Processing graph 1057 (ref=pe_calc-dc-1530169373-1354) derived from 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-warn-6.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.100407+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating start operation stonith-sbd_start_0 locally on siteb-2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.112921+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Requesting fencing (reboot) of node siteb-1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.113113+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Client crmd.189260.7d286b46 wants to fence (reboot) 'siteb-1' with device 
> '(any)'
> 2018-06-28T09:02:53.113308+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Merging stonith action reboot for node siteb-1 originating from client 
> crmd.189260.7b806ca3 with identical request from 
> stonith-api.171087 at sitea-1.9fe08723 (72s)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097551+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Operation reboot of siteb-1 by sitea-2 for 
> stonith-api.171087 at sitea-1.9fe08723: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097669+02:00 siteb-2 stonith-ng[189256]:   notice: 
> Operation reboot of siteb-1 by sitea-2 for crmd.189260 at siteb-2.7b806ca3: 
> OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097756+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Peer 
> siteb-1 was terminated (reboot) by sitea-2 on behalf of 
> stonith-api.171087: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097863+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Transition aborted: External Fencing Operation
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097948+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Stonith 
> operation 2/51:1057:0:1e551e09-fe55-4e9f-9447-a5199f92bf8c: OK (0)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.098036+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Peer 
> siteb-1 was terminated (reboot) by sitea-2 on behalf of crmd.189260: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.098196+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Transition 1057 (Complete=14, Pending=0, Fired=0, Skipped=2, Incomplete=6, 
> Source=/var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-warn-6.bz2): Stopped
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.100556+02:00 siteb-2 dlm_controld[205418]: 80917 fence 
> status 2 receive 0 from 1 walltime 1530169410 local 80917
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101210+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025422] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 9
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101216+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025444] dlm: 
> clvmd: prev removed member 1
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101216+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025446] dlm: 
> clvmd: prev removed member 3
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101217+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025446] dlm: 
> clvmd: remove member 2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101217+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025448] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_members 1 nodes
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101219+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025450] dlm: 
> clvmd: generation 8 slots 1 2:4
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101222+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025452] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101223+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025452] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 0 in 0 new
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101223+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025454] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 0 out 0 messages
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101223+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025455] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101224+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025456] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters 2 of 2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101224+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025457] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 out
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101226+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025458] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 in
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101227+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025459] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_rsbs 2 done
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.101227+02:00 siteb-2 kernel: [80910.025470] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 9 generation 8 done: 0 ms
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.103542+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: 
> Watchdog will be used via SBD if fencing is required
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.103660+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: On 
> loss of CCM Quorum: Ignore
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.106439+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Stop  
> dlm:0#011(sitea-1)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.106528+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: Start  
> k45RG#011(siteb-2)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.107002+02:00 siteb-2 pengine[189259]:   notice: 
> Calculated transition 1058, saving inputs in 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2322.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.107292+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Processing graph 1058 (ref=pe_calc-dc-1530169410-1356) derived from 
> /var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2322.bz2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.107384+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating start operation k45RG_start_0 locally on siteb-2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.117125+02:00 siteb-2 lrmd[189257]:   notice: executing 
> - rsc:k45RG action:start call_id:108
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.117427+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating stop operation dlm_stop_0 on sitea-1
> 2018-06-28T09:03:44.279235+02:00 siteb-2 lrmd[189257]:   notice: finished 
> - rsc:k45RG action:start call_id:108 pid:254501 exit-code:0 
> exec-time:14162ms queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:03:44.287804+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: Result of 
> start operation for k45RG on siteb-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:44.289761+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Initiating monitor operation k45RG_monitor_300000 locally on siteb-2
> 2018-06-28T09:03:45.952776+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: 
> Transition 1058 (Complete=8, Pending=0, Fired=0, Skipped=0, Incomplete=0, 
> Source=/var/lib/pacemaker/pengine/pe-input-2322.bz2): Complete
> 2018-06-28T09:03:45.952976+02:00 siteb-2 crmd[189260]:   notice: State 
> transition S_TRANSITION_ENGINE -> S_IDLE
> -------------------
> Node sitea-1:
> .....
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.504692+02:00 sitea-1 LVM(vg1)[170755]: INFO: 
> Deactivating volume group clustervg
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.937007+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-12: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.937371+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-12: devmap 
> not registered, can't remove
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193367+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59480.678902] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 13
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.193379+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59480.678938] dlm: 
> clvmd: remove member 3
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.393411+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59480.878296] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_members 3 nodes
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.593412+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59481.078227] dlm: 
> clvmd: generation 7 slots 3 1:2 2:4 3:1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.593423+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59481.078232] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.793410+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59481.278263] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 0 in 0 new
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.017465+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-12: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.017639+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-13: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.017724+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-13: devmap 
> not registered, can't remove
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.017801+02:00 sitea-1 multipathd[3567]: dm-13: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.589352+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.074179] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_directory 1 out 2 messages
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.589357+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.074192] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.589357+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.074201] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_masters 1 of 3
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.591207+02:00 sitea-1 LVM(vg1)[170755]: INFO:  0 
> logical volume(s) in volume group "clustervg" now active
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.596699+02:00 sitea-1 LVM(vg1)[170755]: INFO: LVM 
> Volume clustervg is not available (stopped)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.600665+02:00 sitea-1 lrmd[9025]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:vg1 action:stop call_id:80 pid:170755 exit-code:0 exec-time:2315ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.600897+02:00 sitea-1 crmd[9031]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for vg1 on sitea-1: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.604928+02:00 sitea-1 lrmd[9025]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:clvm action:stop call_id:83
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.617437+02:00 sitea-1 clvmd(clvm)[171004]: INFO: 
> Stopping clvm
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.626327+02:00 sitea-1 clvmd(clvm)[171004]: INFO: 
> Stopping clvmd
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.745414+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.230710] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 out
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.389417+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.874050] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_locks 0 in
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.389429+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59482.874056] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover_rsbs 3 done
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.988133+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59483.474046] dlm: 
> clvmd: dlm_recover 13 generation 7 done: 2396 ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.988142+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59483.474240] dlm: 
> clvmd: leaving the lockspace group...
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.988142+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59483.475630] dlm: 
> clvmd: group event done 0 0
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.988143+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59483.476068] dlm: 
> clvmd: release_lockspace final free
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.652248+02:00 sitea-1 clvmd(clvm)[171004]: INFO: 
> Stopping cmirrord
> 2018-06-28T09:02:28.666056+02:00 sitea-1 lrmd[9025]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:clvm action:stop call_id:83 pid:171004 exit-code:0 exec-time:3061ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:28.666439+02:00 sitea-1 crmd[9031]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for clvm on sitea-1: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:38.413748+02:00 sitea-1 corosync[6661]:   [TOTEM ] A 
> processor failed, forming new configuration.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.079905+02:00 sitea-1 corosync[6661]:   [TOTEM ] A new 
> membership (192.168.121.55:2012) was formed. Members left: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.080306+02:00 sitea-1 corosync[6661]:   [TOTEM ] Failed 
> to receive the leave message. failed: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082619+02:00 sitea-1 cib[9021]:   notice: Node siteb-1 
> state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082790+02:00 sitea-1 cib[9021]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082895+02:00 sitea-1 attrd[9026]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082993+02:00 sitea-1 attrd[9026]:   notice: Removing 
> all siteb-1 attributes for peer loss
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083075+02:00 sitea-1 attrd[9026]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083156+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-ng[9022]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083253+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-ng[9022]:   notice: 
> Purged 1 peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083335+02:00 sitea-1 pacemakerd[8546]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083429+02:00 sitea-1 corosync[6661]:   [QUORUM] 
> Members[3]: 1 3 4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083521+02:00 sitea-1 corosync[6661]:   [MAIN  ] 
> Completed service synchronization, ready to provide service.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.083606+02:00 sitea-1 crmd[9031]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.084290+02:00 sitea-1 dlm_controld[73416]: 59514 fence 
> request 2 pid 171087 nodedown time 1530169372 fence_all dlm_stonith
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.085446+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59508.568940] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.109393+02:00 sitea-1 dlm_stonith: stonith_api_time: 
> Found 0 entries for 2/(null): 0 in progress, 0 completed
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.110167+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-ng[9022]:   notice: 
> Client stonith-api.171087.d3c59fc2 wants to fence (reboot) '2' with device 
> '(any)'
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.113257+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-ng[9022]:   notice: 
> Requesting peer fencing (reboot) of siteb-1
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.096714+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-ng[9022]:   notice: 
> Operation reboot of siteb-1 by sitea-2 for 
> stonith-api.171087 at sitea-1.9fe08723: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097152+02:00 sitea-1 stonith-api[171087]: 
> stonith_api_kick: Node 2/(null) kicked: reboot
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.097426+02:00 sitea-1 crmd[9031]:   notice: Peer 
> lnx0361b was terminated (reboot) by sitea-2 on behalf of 
> stonith-api.171087: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.098657+02:00 sitea-1 dlm_controld[73416]: 59552 fence 
> result 2 pid 171087 result 0 exit status
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.099730+02:00 sitea-1 dlm_controld[73416]: 59552 fence 
> status 2 receive 0 from 1 walltime 1530169410 local 59552
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.118114+02:00 sitea-1 lrmd[9025]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:dlm action:stop call_id:85
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.149362+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59546.630487] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 4
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.149370+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59546.630496] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 3
> 2018-06-28T09:03:30.149371+02:00 sitea-1 kernel: [59546.630501] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 1
> 2018-06-28T09:03:31.168356+02:00 sitea-1 lrmd[9025]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:dlm action:stop call_id:85 pid:171235 exit-code:0 exec-time:1050ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:03:31.168768+02:00 sitea-1 crmd[9031]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for dlm on lnx0361a: 0 (ok)
> 
> -------------------
> Node sitea-2:
> ...
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.285402+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:vg1 action:stop call_id:78
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.286028+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:sysinfo action:stop call_id:80
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.293918+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:sysinfo action:stop call_id:80 pid:228481 exit-code:0 exec-time:8ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.294070+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for sysinfo on sitea-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.448868+02:00 sitea-2 LVM(vg1)[228480]: INFO: 
> Deactivating volume group clustervg
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.494608+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-12: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:23.494774+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-12: devmap 
> not registered, can't remove
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.147057+02:00 sitea-2 LVM(vg1)[228480]: INFO:  0 
> logical volume(s) in volume group "clustervg" now active
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.152209+02:00 sitea-2 LVM(vg1)[228480]: INFO: LVM 
> Volume clustervg is not available (stopped)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.155824+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:vg1 action:stop call_id:78 pid:228480 exit-code:0 exec-time:871ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.156133+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for vg1 on sitea-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.159361+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:clvm action:stop call_id:81
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.169269+02:00 sitea-2 clvmd(clvm)[229478]: INFO: 
> Stopping clvm
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.177998+02:00 sitea-2 clvmd(clvm)[229478]: INFO: 
> Stopping clvmd
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.187070+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59548.133661] dlm: 
> clvmd: leaving the lockspace group...
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.187078+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59548.134502] dlm: 
> clvmd: group event done 0 0
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.187078+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59548.134863] dlm: 
> clvmd: release_lockspace final free
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.707189+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-12: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.707584+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-13: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.707672+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-13: devmap 
> not registered, can't remove
> 2018-06-28T09:02:24.707754+02:00 sitea-2 multipathd[3459]: dm-13: remove 
> map (uevent)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:25.193751+02:00 sitea-2 clvmd(clvm)[229478]: INFO: 
> Stopping cmirrord
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.204708+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:clvm action:stop call_id:81 pid:229478 exit-code:0 exec-time:2046ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.204942+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for clvm on sitea-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.208588+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: executing - 
> rsc:dlm action:stop call_id:83
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.236329+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59550.182284] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.236336+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59550.182293] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 3
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.236337+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59550.182299] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:26.236337+02:00 sitea-2 kernel: [59550.182306] dlm: 
> closing connection to node 1
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.248204+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:dlm action:stop call_id:83 pid:230674 exit-code:0 exec-time:1039ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:27.248462+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for dlm on sitea-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:30.454215+02:00 sitea-2 lrmd[9657]:   notice: finished - 
> rsc:k45RG action:stop call_id:76 pid:228479 exit-code:0 exec-time:7169ms 
> queue-time:0ms
> 2018-06-28T09:02:30.454595+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Result of 
> stop operation for k45RG on sitea-2: 0 (ok)
> 2018-06-28T09:02:38.412808+02:00 sitea-2 corosync[6570]:   [TOTEM ] A 
> processor failed, forming new configuration.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.078249+02:00 sitea-2 corosync[6570]:   [TOTEM ] A new 
> membership (192.168.121.55:2012) was formed. Members left: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.078359+02:00 sitea-2 corosync[6570]:   [TOTEM ] Failed 
> to receive the leave message. failed: 2
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.081949+02:00 sitea-2 cib[9655]:   notice: Node siteb-1 
> state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082048+02:00 sitea-2 attrd[9658]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082138+02:00 sitea-2 cib[9655]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082220+02:00 sitea-2 attrd[9658]:   notice: Removing 
> all siteb-1 attributes for peer loss
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082300+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082391+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: 
> Purged 1 peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082470+02:00 sitea-2 attrd[9658]:   notice: Purged 1 
> peer with id=2 and/or uname=siteb-1 from the membership cache
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082653+02:00 sitea-2 corosync[6570]:   [QUORUM] 
> Members[3]: 1 3 4
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082739+02:00 sitea-2 corosync[6570]:   [MAIN  ] 
> Completed service synchronization, ready to provide service.
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082819+02:00 sitea-2 pacemakerd[9653]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.082908+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Node 
> siteb-1 state is now lost
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.495697+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: 
> stonith-sbd can fence (reboot) siteb-1: dynamic-list
> 2018-06-28T09:02:52.495902+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: 
> Delaying reboot on stonith-sbd for 25358ms (timeout=300s)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:01.357937+02:00 sitea-2 cron[231205]: 
> pam_unix(crond:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.093957+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: 
> Operation 'reboot' [231293] (call 2 from stonith-api.171087) for host 
> 'siteb-1' with device 'stonith-sbd' returned: 0 (OK)
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.096254+02:00 sitea-2 stonith-ng[9656]:   notice: 
> Operation reboot of siteb-1 by sitea-2 for 
> stonith-api.171087 at sitea-1.9fe08723: OK
> 2018-06-28T09:03:29.096769+02:00 sitea-2 crmd[9660]:   notice: Peer 
> siteb-1 was terminated (reboot) by sitea-2 on behalf of 
> stonith-api.171087: OK
> -------------------
> Node sideb-1 has no entries during this timeframe
> 
> during standby corosync should be up/running - so may the "Failed to 
> receive the leave message" will be a Problem?
> 
> regards
> Philipp
> 
>> Von: "Ulrich Windl" <Ulrich.Windl at rz.uni-regensburg.de>
>> An: <users at clusterlabs.org>
>> Datum: 16.07.2018 08:33
>> Betreff: [ClusterLabs] Antw:  corosync/dlm fencing?
>> Gesendet von: "Users" <users-bounces at clusterlabs.org>
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I don't run SLES 12, but in SLES 11 some RAs tried to unload kernel 
> modules
>> during stop, and when you had installed kernel updates before, the 
> operation
>> failed, and the cluster paniced (i.e.: started to fence the node). 
>> In your case
>> it should be obvious from the logs why the cluster wants to fence nodes. 
> Maybe
>> "grep -i fence /var/log/messages" (or in pacemaker's log)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ulrich
>> 
>> >>> Philipp Achmüller <philipp.achmueller at arz.at> schrieb am 15.07.2018 
> um
>> 15:39 in
>> Nachricht 
> <OF678C848F.04D4334F-ONC12582CB.00473374-C12582CB.004AFD3B at arz.at>:
>> > hi!
>> > 
>> > i have a 4 node cluster running on SLES12 SP3
>> > ‑ pacemaker‑1.1.16‑4.8.x86_64
>> > ‑ corosync‑2.3.6‑9.5.1.x86_64
>> > 
>> > following configuration:
>> > 
>> > Stack: corosync
>> > Current DC: sitea‑2 (version 1.1.16‑4.8‑77ea74d) ‑ partition with 
> quorum
>> > Last updated: Sun Jul 15 15:00:55 2018
>> > Last change: Sat Jul 14 18:54:50 2018 by root via crm_resource on 
> sitea‑1
>> > 
>> > 4 nodes configured
>> > 23 resources configured
>> > 
>> > Node sitea‑1: online
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:controld):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::lvm2:clvmd):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:SysInfo):       Active 
>> >         5       (ocf::heartbeat:VirtualDomain): Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::heartbeat:LVM):   Active 
>> > Node siteb‑1: online
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:controld):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::lvm2:clvmd):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:SysInfo):       Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::heartbeat:VirtualDomain): Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::heartbeat:LVM):   Active 
>> > Node sitea‑2: online
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:controld):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::lvm2:clvmd):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:SysInfo):       Active 
>> >         3       (ocf::heartbeat:VirtualDomain): Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::heartbeat:LVM):   Active 
>> > Node siteb‑2: online
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:ClusterMon):    Active 
>> >         3       (ocf::heartbeat:VirtualDomain): Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:SysInfo):       Active 
>> >         1       (stonith:external/sbd): Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::lvm2:clvmd):      Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::heartbeat:LVM):   Active 
>> >         1       (ocf::pacemaker:controld):      Active 
>> > ‑‑‑‑
>> > and these ordering:
>> > ...
>> > group base‑group dlm clvm vg1
>> > clone base‑clone base‑group \
>> >         meta interleave=true target‑role=Started ordered=true
>> > colocation colocation‑VM‑base‑clone‑INFINITY inf: VM base‑clone
>> > order order‑base‑clone‑VM‑mandatory base‑clone:start VM:start
>> > ...
>> > 
>> > for maintenance i would like to standby 1 or 2 nodes from "sitea" so 
> that 
>> > every Resources move off from these 2 images.
>> > everything works fine until dlm stops as last resource on these nodes, 
> 
>> > then dlm_controld send fence_request ‑ sometimes to the remaining 
> online 
>> > nodes, so there is online 1 node left in cluster....
>> > 
>> > messages:
>> > 
>> > ....
>> > 2018‑07‑14T14:38:56.441157+02:00 siteb‑1 dlm_controld[39725]: 678 
> fence 
>> > request 3 pid 54428 startup time 1531571371 fence_all dlm_stonith
>> > 2018‑07‑14T14:38:56.445284+02:00 siteb‑1 dlm_stonith: 
> stonith_api_time: 
>> > Found 0 entries for 3/(null): 0 in progress, 0 completed
>> > 2018‑07‑14T14:38:56.446033+02:00 siteb‑1 stonith‑ng[8085]: notice: 
> 
>> > Client stonith‑api.54428.ee6a7e02 wants to fence (reboot) '3' with 
> device 
>> > '(any)'
>> > 2018‑07‑14T14:38:56.446294+02:00 siteb‑1 stonith‑ng[8085]: notice: 
> 
>> > Requesting peer fencing (reboot) of sitea‑2
>> > ...
>> > 
>> >  # dlm_tool dump_config
>> > daemon_debug=0
>> > foreground=0
>> > log_debug=0
>> > timewarn=0
>> > protocol=detect
>> > debug_logfile=0
>> > enable_fscontrol=0
>> > enable_plock=1
>> > plock_debug=0
>> > plock_rate_limit=0
>> > plock_ownership=0
>> > drop_resources_time=10000
>> > drop_resources_count=10
>> > drop_resources_age=10000
>> > post_join_delay=30
>> > enable_fencing=1
>> > enable_concurrent_fencing=0
>> > enable_startup_fencing=0
>> > repeat_failed_fencing=1
>> > enable_quorum_fencing=1
>> > enable_quorum_lockspace=1
>> > help=‑1
>> > version=‑1
>> > 
>> > how to find out what is happening here?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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