[ClusterLabs] Antw: Re: DLM fencing

[Ulrich Windl]

>>> Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca> schrieb am 08.02.2016 um 20:03 in Nachricht
<56B8E68A.1060301 at alteeve.ca>:
> On 08/02/16 01:56 PM, Ferenc Wágner wrote:
>> Ken Gaillot <kgaillot at redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On 02/07/2016 12:21 AM, G Spot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your response, am using ocf:pacemaker:controld resource
>>>> agent and stonith-enabled=false do I need to configure stonith device
>>>> to make this work?
>>>
>>> Correct. DLM requires access to fencing.
>> 
>> I've ment to explore this connection for long, but never found much
>> useful material on the subject.  How does DLM fencing fit into the
>> modern Pacemaker architecture?  Fencing is a confusing topic in itself
>> already (fence_legacy, fence_pcmk, stonith, stonithd, stonith_admin),
>> then dlm_controld can use dlm_stonith to proxy fencing requests to
>> Pacemaker, and it becomes hopeless... :)
>> 
>> I'd be grateful for a pointer to a good overview document, or a quick
>> sketch if you can spare the time.  To invoke some concrete questions:
>> When does DLM fence a node?  Is it necessary only when there's no
>> resource manager running on the cluster?  Does it matter whether
>> dlm_controld is run as a standalone daemon or as a controld resource?
>> Wouldn't Pacemaker fence a failing node itself all the same?  Or is
>> dlm_stonith for the case when only the stonithd component of Pacemaker
>> is active somehow?
> 
> DLM is a thing onto itself, and some tools like gfs2 and clustered-lvm
> use it to coordinate locking across the cluster. If a node drops out,
> the cluster informs dlm and it blocks until the lost node is confirmed
> fenced. Then it reaps the lost locks and recovery can begin.
> 
> If fencing fails or is not configured, DLM never unblocks and anything
> using it is left hung (by design, better to hang than risk corruption).
> 
> One of many reasons why fencing is critical.

I'm not deeply in DLM, but it seems to me DLM can run standalone, or in the
cluster infrastructure (we only use it inside the cluster). When running
standalone, it makes sense that DLM has ist own fencing, but when running
inside the cluster infrastructure, I'd expect tha tthe cluster's fencing
mechanisms are used (maybe just because if the better logging of reasons).

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