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    Yes.<br>
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    P.S. Dont remove the mailing list from the recipients. Bad etiquette
    :-)<br>
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    Sent: Thu Dec 01 2011 14:50:21 GMT-0700 (MST)<br>
    From: Charles DeVoe <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"><scarecrow_57@yahoo.com></a><br>
    To: Patrick H. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a> <br>
    Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Fedora 16 Cluster
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            <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">That document says
              to remove the pacemaker plugin.  Should I start pacemaker
              as a service?<br>
              <br>
              --- On <b>Thu, 12/1/11, Patrick H. <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a></i></b>
              wrote:<br>
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                255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>
                From: Patrick H. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a><br>
                Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Fedora 16 Cluster<br>
                To: "Charles DeVoe" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"><scarecrow_57@yahoo.com></a>,
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org">pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org</a><br>
                Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 4:22 PM<br>
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                  <div> Yes, the original documentation you came across
                    that talks about CMAN :-)<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                      target="_blank"
href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1/html/Clusters_from_Scratch/ch08s02.html">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1/html/Clusters_from_Scratch/ch08s02.html</a><br>
                    Though you dont need the gfs stuff if youre not
                    going to be using gfs<br>
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                    Sent: Thu Dec 01 2011 14:00:44 GMT-0700 (MST)<br>
                    From: Charles DeVoe <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      rel="nofollow"
                      class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      ymailto="mailto:scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"
                      target="_blank"
                      href="/mc/compose?to=scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"><scarecrow_57@yahoo.com></a><br>
                    To: Patrick H. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      rel="nofollow"
                      class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      ymailto="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net"
                      target="_blank"
                      href="/mc/compose?to=pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a>
                    <br>
                    Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Fedora 16 Cluster
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                            <td style="font:inherit;" valign="top">Is
                              there some documentation on how to set up
                              option 3?<br>
                              <br>
                              corosync + cpg + cman + mcp<br>
                              <br>
                              Do I simply start up pacemaker????<br>
                              Also, what is cpg?<br>
                              <br>
                              --- On <b>Thu, 12/1/11, Patrick H. <i><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    rel="nofollow"
                                    class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
ymailto="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net" target="_blank"
                                    href="/mc/compose?to=pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a></i></b>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><br>
                                From: Patrick H. <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                  ymailto="mailto:pacemaker@feystorm.net"
                                  target="_blank"
                                  href="/mc/compose?to=pacemaker@feystorm.net"><pacemaker@feystorm.net></a><br>
                                Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Fedora 16
                                Cluster<br>
                                To: "The Pacemaker cluster resource
                                manager" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  rel="nofollow"
                                  class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
ymailto="mailto:pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org" target="_blank"
                                  href="/mc/compose?to=pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org"><pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org></a><br>
                                Cc: "Charles DeVoe" <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                  ymailto="mailto:scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"
                                  target="_blank"
                                  href="/mc/compose?to=scarecrow_57@yahoo.com"><scarecrow_57@yahoo.com></a><br>
                                Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 1:52
                                PM<br>
                                <br>
                                <div id="yiv1049335766">
                                  <div> Sent: Thu Dec 01 2011 11:34:39
                                    GMT-0700 (MST)<br>
                                    From: Charles DeVoe <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      rel="nofollow"
                                      class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><scarecrow_57@yahoo.com></a><br>
                                    To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      rel="nofollow"
                                      class="yiv1049335766moz-txt-link-abbreviated">pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org</a>
                                    <br>
                                    Subject: [Pacemaker] Fedora 16
                                    Cluster
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                                              valign="top">I've spent
                                              the last month or so
                                              building linux clusters. 
                                              2 of them in a VM
                                              environment on fedora 15. 
                                              I went through the
                                              Clusters from Scratch
                                              Tutorial; which sort of
                                              worked.  At this time I am
                                              looking for a sanity
                                              check.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              My requirements are  to
                                              have  a 4 node load
                                              balanced cluster with
                                              shard access to a SAN
                                              volume.  The SAN will be
                                              using GFS2.<br>
                                              <br>
                                               I believe I need
                                              corosync, Openais,
                                              PaceMaker, and GFS2
                                              utilities.  <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Where the confusion is
                                              coming from is the use of
                                              CMAN in the clusters from
                                              scratch.  It seems from
                                              what I am reading that
                                              Pacemaker should be able
                                              to do everything I need
                                              and I am wondering if the
                                              use of cman is old
                                              information.  <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Any thoughts comments or
                                              suggestiosn are greatly
                                              appreciated, Thanks in
                                              advance.<br>
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                                    No, CMAN is the new information.
                                    Theres a nasty bug out there (see <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.mail-archive.com/openais@lists.linux-foundation.org/msg05600.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/openais@lists.linux-foundation.org/msg05600.html</a>)
                                    if you setup pacemaker 1.1 without
                                    the new MCP stuff. Best solution is
                                    to switch to CMAN. See <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://theclusterguy.clusterlabs.org/post/907043024/introducing-the-pacemaker-master-control-process-for">http://theclusterguy.clusterlabs.org/post/907043024/introducing-the-pacemaker-master-control-process-for</a>
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