[Pacemaker] Upstart resources

Andrew Beekhof andrew at beekhof.net
Thu Feb 23 17:48:36 EST 2012

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Ante Karamatic <ivoks at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On 23.02.2012 00:10, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> Do you still have LSB scripts on a machine thats using upstart?
> Yes, some LSB scripts can't be easily converted to upstart jobs. Or,
> let's rephrase that - can't be converted to upstart jobs without losing
> some of the functionality.
>> On fedora they purged them all.
> All? Even the stuff like drbd? I have to take a look at that.

I think any package that doesn't have a unit file is going to be
blacklisted from F-17.
That was the threat at least.

>> At any rate, I'm inclined to think that we're making an unnecessary
>> differentiation.
>> When we write LSB, we really mean "system services" and don't much
>> care if that means a SYS-V script, Upstart job or Systemd unit.
> I agree.
>> It also makes running mixed clusters needlessly painful.
> But then again, distributions have different names for the same service.
> For example, apache2 on debian/ubuntu, httpd on (all?) RPM distributions.

I think those are the exception.  For the most part they have the same name.
At least we wouldn't be adding additional pointless incompatibilities :-)

>> Should we not treat LSB (or some new name) as an alias for whatever
>> flavour of init is currently in vogue for that distro?
>> Doesn't seem like it would be terribly hard to work out on the fly.
> Therefore the question about initctl few days ago? :)

'service' yeah :-)

> I do like the
> idea. Some distributions provide multiple different init systems;
> switching between those would be much easier in that case.
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