[ClusterLabs Developers] [deveoplers] maintenance vs is-managed; different levels of the maintenance property
Yan Gao
YGao at suse.com
Wed Nov 27 12:13:16 UTC 2019
Hi all,
First thanks for bringing this up, Aleksei.
On 11/26/19 3:38 PM, Aleksei Burlakov wrote:
> Dear Developers,
>
> I would like to raise a discussion about an issue/feature about the
> maintenance property applied to different levels of a cluster.
>
> In order to explain the problem lets consider several examples.
>
> *Scenario 1*. There is a primitive p1 in a group g1. When applying the
> maintenance property to them, the most specific resource will take
> precedence. Namely, if p1 has the maintenance property set, it will be
> used, otherwise, the maintenance property of the g1 is used. It's ok.
>
> *Scenario 1*. There is a clone of a group c1, group g1, and a primitive
> p1, that belongs to the group g1. When we apply the maintenance
> attribute, the most specific attribute takes precedence, but the
> attribute of the clone c1 may have different value than the group and
> the primitive. It's strange, but still ok.
>
> *Scenario 3*. There is a cluster with one node node1 and one primitive
> p1. This time when setting the maintenance/maintenance-mode attribute to
> the primitive/node1/default-property the p1 will be true when either one
> of them is set to true. It means the most specific attribute don't
> precede anymore. One may think it's the feature, but imho its a *bug*.
>
> *Scenario 4*. There is only a primitive p1. We apply both: an
> is-managed attribute and maintenance attribute This is it will work as
> is-managed maintenance | p1
> false false |
> unmanaged
Since it seems that "maintenance" attribute tends to takes precedence
over "is-managed" attribute, this combination probably is the only
problematic case. I think it probably needs an "else" in here:
https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/blob/master/lib/pengine/complex.c#L531
:-)
> false true |
> unmanaged
> true false |
> managed
> true true |
> unmanaged
> that works quite unexpectedly.
>
> In the more complex scenarios, where the is-managed property is used
> together with the maintenance, the status resources get unpredictable,
> which is definitely *not ok*.
>
> The *counterargument* is that it was always like this and the customers
> are used to this behavior. They may remember that a certain combination
> of attributes leads to a certain status and enforcing the most specific
> rule would lead to the *change of behaviour and backward incompatibility*.
Despite how the conflicting attributes/settings should be handled
correctly at resource levels, I think one main question here probably is:
Should maintenance mode of node/cluster scope consider any specific
conflicting settings of resources? Or should it just put the whole scope
(node/cluster) into maintenance mode without exceptions, as how it is now?
Regards,
Yan
>
> Please share your opinion about the issue, if we should leave it working
> as is or enforce the most specific rule in though the whole cluster. And
> give a priority to either one of the conflicting attributes (is-managed
> vs maintenance).
>
> Best regards,
> Aleksei Burlakov
> SUSE Senior Developer
>
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