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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/24/2017 02:05 PM, Kristián
      Feldsam wrote:<br>
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      Hello, you have to use second fencing device, for ex. APC Switched
      PDU.
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    Problem here seems to be that the fencing devices available are
    running from<br>
    the same power-supply as the node itself. So they are kind of
    useless to determine<br>
    weather the partner-node has no power or simply is no reachable via
    network.<br>
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                  configured DRBD in Master\Slave setup, a floating IP
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                  configured two STONITH devices (fence_ipmilan), one
                  for each server.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  trying to simulate a situation when the Master server
                  crushes with no power.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  both of the PSU cables and the server becomes offline
                  (UNCLEAN).<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  resources that the Master use to hold are now in
                  Started (UNCLEAN) state.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  is unclean since the STONITH failed (the STONITH
                  device is located on the server (Intel RMM4 - IPMI) –
                  which uses the same power supply).<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The
                  problem is that now, the cluster does not releasing
                  the resources that the Master holds, and the service
                  goes down.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: left;
                  direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; font-size: 11pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Is there
                  any way to overcome this situation?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: left;
                  direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; font-size: 11pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We tried
                  to add a qdevice but got the same results.</div>
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    <br>
    If you have already setup qdevice (using an additional node or so)
    you could use <br>
    quorum-based watchdog-fencing via SBD.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:D6132E4C-B959-466C-969A-D37840EB94BC@feldhost.cz">
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                  direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; font-size: 11pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We are
                  using pacemaker 1.1.15 on CentOS 7.3<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: left;
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                    class=""> </o:p></div>
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                  direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; font-size: 11pt;
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                    class=""></o:p></div>
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                  direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; font-size: 11pt;
                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Tomer.<span
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Users mailing list: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@clusterlabs.org">Users@clusterlabs.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a>

Project Home: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.clusterlabs.org">http://www.clusterlabs.org</a>
Getting started: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf">http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf</a>
Bugs: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bugs.clusterlabs.org">http://bugs.clusterlabs.org</a>
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Klaus Wenninger

Senior Software Engineer, EMEA ENG Openstack Infrastructure

Red Hat

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